The stupidity of Antifa

The article below contains interviews with some Antifa members. It is hard to believe that they can be this stupid. One of the main objections to fascism is their animus towards free speech. This is what an Antifa members says:

“We don’t think fascism deserves free speech,” Bonnie said. “You give a platform to fascism, they will kill you. We want to shut that down before we get killed.”

Of course, this corresponds exactly to what a fascist would DO to the free speech rights of their opponents (although they would publicly deny such an intent) and it is completely lost on this fool. Someone should tell Antifa that the First Amendment exists to protect unpopular speech. You cannot convict or accuse others of a crime in advance of the crime as well.

The two sides are not equivalent; Hitler, Mussolini were fascists. Almost nothing compares to them. Antifa, in a country where the police in Berkeley, for example, are NOT tools of the fascists, only get in the way of justice and in fact, give actual fascists some cover when the fascists then generalize about their opposition. The tactic that will be used by White Nationalists, the KKK, neo-Nazis and others will be to paint all their opponents as free speech haters such as Antifa. And it will work to a large degree.

Thanks for nothing.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/An-Inside-Look-at-the-Antifa-Movement--448068573.html

Does the KKK love the so-called President?

Written August 23, 2017 on Facebook

One of the things supporters of the so-called President are saying, and that he said at his rally, is that he criticized hate groups like the KKK and neo-Nazis in his statements. They overlook his waffling in other parts of his statements of course, but they point to some things he said and claim it means he is not a bigot.

But what do the actual bigots really think?

Washington Post: "Less than a half-hour after Trump’s live remarks, the Daily Stormer had declared the president’s words as a signal of tacit support for their side: 'Trump comments were good. He didn’t attack us. He just said the nation should come together. Nothing specific against us.'

And David Duke - he GUSHED over the so-called President!

So here is what the supporters are saying; "we don't care if the KKK and neo-Nazis feel that the so-called President supported them or feel that he has their backs. We believe whatever the so-called President tells us..."

Read for yourself:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politics/donald-trump-david-duke-charlottesville/index.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/08/13/one-group-loved-trumps-remarks-about-charlottesville-white-supremacists/?utm_term=.f6696795b39b

Antifa

AntiFa is going to be a problem in opposing the so-called President. This group will be the convenient and easy excuse for him to justify selective crackdowns and moral equivalencies. Please note that AntiFa assumes in advance that their opponents are violent - in other words their opponents, they assume, typically the alt-right or worse, have ALREADY been violent and deserve a physical confrontation.

Now I understand that the KKK and neo-Nazis actually exist to HARM others and that AntiFa claims to exist to DEFEND, but that defense is not guaranteed to be within the bounds of legality if their definition of defense is to "disrupt" alt-right rallies for example.

Of course, all this is EXACTLY what the alt-right wants them to do so that they can say that the left wing is the real danger to the US. This scenario is not unlike Al Qaeda hoping the the US would attack in Iraq so that they could promote the narrative of the US being at war with Islam. And AntiFa will deliver in this case to the alt-right. Let's not encourage this movement.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/us/antifa-left-wing-faction-far-right.html?smid=fb-share

The so-called President's family and the KKK

Was the so-called President's father involved with the KKK? According to a copy of an old New York Times article in 1927, Fred Trump was arrested in conjunction with a riot between the police and the KKK in New York and a person arrested most likely was indeed Fred Trump, father of Donald.

More details are lost to history but there is more evidence that Fred Trump was a KKK sympathizer than Ted Cruz's father helped kill JFK, a meme that the so-called President promoted in the campaign.

Snopes calls it a mix of truth and speculation.

https://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-father-kkk-1927/